A Selection Of Nice CSS Sites | January 27, 2004

Posted at January 27, 2004 7:37 PM

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justin said on January 27, 2004 10:06 PM

Damn! Nice lists here Andy. Stuff and Nonsense is curvalicious and WWF Australia is excellent too.

Andy Clarke said on January 28, 2004 12:57 AM

Comrade,

Andy, I am humbled to see Stuff & Nonsense listed here among such terrific company. I hope that we don’t too much of a roasting, as the CSS and mark-up leave a lot to be desired.

We will try harder next time.

Kind regards

Malarkey

Amit Karmakar said on January 28, 2004 6:49 AM

You’ve got some nice sites listed here Andy. I also like the Max Design, www.maxdesign.com.au Many a times I have stumbled across sites that are so well done, clean and crisp it makes me redesign my own from scratch. That’s the way the web goes I suppose :)

Gordon Mackay said on January 28, 2004 9:58 AM

WOW, thanks for adding W-orx.com to the list. I am very honored and you just made my day :-)

ray said on January 28, 2004 1:44 PM

Thanks for the link Andy :)

Some great looking sites in that list. Sweeting’s site reminds me of Radu’s Zunflower from the Dave’s Garden.

Johan Sahlén said on January 28, 2004 2:10 PM

Thanks for the link, I am truly humbled to be listed among such fantastic sites as these.

Garrett said on January 28, 2004 2:13 PM

What can I say—thanks for thinking enough of my site to put me on the list, even if it took me forever to post this comment.

Andy Budd said on January 28, 2004 3:58 PM

C’mon guys,

No need to thank me. You did all the work by creating such nice looking sites.

Justin said on January 28, 2004 7:12 PM

Funny how Stuff and Nonsense looks so much like Sparkplug. http://sparkplug.com

Andy Clarke said on January 28, 2004 8:51 PM

Many thanks for your comments Justin,

We were not aware of the Sparkplug site until your posting on Andy Budd and agree that we both seem to have gone for the Apple IBook look.

Still, unlike the table-based Sparkplug, our site is table-free and CSS. We change our design roughly every three months so I hope you might stop by then and see what’s up.

I am sure Andy doesn’t want us cluttering up his pages, so I’ll close… Kind regards

Andy Clarke

Justin said on January 28, 2004 9:08 PM

“We were not aware of the Sparkplug site”

Really? In that case, it’s down right astounding how identical your design is to Sparkplug’s. Right down to the rounded buttons in your right hand navigation which have share the same design and color scheme and have an identical rollover effect to Sparkplug’s. Also, the skewed screenshots in your portfolio that look just like the “projections” at Sparkplug.com - what a coincidence.

“Still, unlike the table-based Sparkplug, our site is table-free and CSS.”

I commend you on your CSS based layout… but I don’t see how that has anything to do with the fact that your layout virtually mirrors that of Sparkplug.com’s?

“Many thanks for your comments Justin”

No Problem.

Gordon Mackay said on January 28, 2004 10:22 PM

Hmmmm, that’s all really irrelevant Justin.

The point of this post was only to show a few nice CSS designs. We all draw inspiration from somewhere…. a lot of the time from other web sites.

When someone discovers a technique, in this case rounded CSS corners, they want to use it in a tasteful manner. And in this case “roundness” has filtered through in the branding of Andy’s site.

Its a bit like this, all red cars with steering wheels and bonnet scoops ain’t the same just because they have similar elements in their design :-)

Justin said on January 28, 2004 10:40 PM

Well Gordon…

“Hmmmm, that’s all really irrelevant Justin.”

I find it extraordinarly doubtful that Sparkplug.com’s legal council will agree with you, Gordon. Nor do I.

“We all draw inspiration from somewhere…. a lot of the time from other web sites.”

Insipiration… copyright infringement… downright theivery… it’s all the same.

“When someone discovers a technique, in this case rounded CSS corners, they want to use it in a tasteful manner.”

Discovers a technique… hijacks a site… it’s all the same.
Did you even look at and compare these two sites? I find it highly improbable that the striking similarity could be simply described as “filtered branding.”

justin goodlett said on January 28, 2004 11:31 PM

Just so those involved in this discussion. The “justin” commenting on the Stuff and Nonsense site is a different justin than myself - Justin Goodlett.

“Insipiration… copyright infringement… downright theivery… it’s all the same.”

Im nost sure where you draw these conclusions Justin. We all draw inspiration from everything around us. It is only natural that things that inspire us will filter through in our design. Many sites possess amazing and creative elements that I admire, like Stuff and Nonsense, and at some point those elements will speak out through my own designs, be it on the web or in print.

Coolkev said on January 28, 2004 11:34 PM

WHOA! Those sites are practically identical.

Andy, you’ve got a good lawsuit on your hands. I cant believe they stole your site and turned it into a crappy table based layout.

Andy Clarke said on January 29, 2004 8:43 AM

Comrades

Thank-you to Andy Budd, Justin and Gordon for the kind support. As we did not solicit attention from AndyBudd.com, we did not expect the unwelcome accusations from Justin (both on this blog and privately by email) which, as creative people, have upset us deeply.

I did ask Justin politely not to post a reply on Mr. Budd’s blog, as I think that it is unfair to pursue such a topic on another man’s web site. However, as he ignored this polite request it appears that manners are not being taught in his part of California anymore.

Stuff and Nonsense is a small agency in a provincial part of a small country (Wales). We have just entered our sixth year of business and (generally speaking) have a nice time doing work for nice people who pay nicely on time.

Today we ‘were’ feeling very happy after winning a £10,000 ($20,000 ?) commission from a local council. I regret that this individual has chosen to attack us so personally and so publically. It really spoilt a very nice day.

Andy Clarke

Andy Budd said on January 29, 2004 8:51 AM

OK guys, shall we cool it with the accusation here? It’s true that the designs share a very similar motif, however there is no indication that anybody copied anybody’s design. Just conjecture. The web is a big place and it’s perfectly possible for two people to come up with similar concepts independently.

So if we can call this thread a day, I’d really appreciate it.

Martin Glancy said on March 8, 2004 7:51 PM

Nice sites, but it’s a shame that a few have opted for fixed font sizes. I’ve just gotten to the stage where I often like to up the size one step on a site (Ctrl-mouse wheel - worth trying in IE) and it’s never worth the trip to the options to remove the fixed font size.

Eric Spinnons said on March 6, 2006 10:41 PM

“WHOA! Those sites are practically identical.

Andy, you’ve got a good lawsuit on your hands. I cant believe they stole your site and turned it into a crappy table based layout.”

LOL :-D